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My version of Kratky non-circulating hydroponics

3/8/2015

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I learned about Kratky's research from Mike Adams (The Health Ranger). Mike has created a stir with his new website teaching people how to grow food in plastic bins. I really appreciated Mike's videos showing how to build his system. I love his passion and his transparency. That said, I do have a critique: He is touting his plans for a float that you can 3D print out of a special filament that he helped to design. That's fine, but one of the selling points of his campaign is that we all will be building his new grow boxes after an EMP. Um, how are we going to fire up the 3D printers after an EMP?

So, I thought about how he's building his Food Rising Mini-Farm Grow Box. And, I decided to put something similar together with the items I have around the house or could easily (and affordably) acquire in town.  A year ago, I bought a couple planters on legs from Rite Aid for $25 each. They are very nice actually. I'm not sure how well they would hold up outside because they are brittle plastic. But, they do well inside in my dining nook. I had two 10-gallon fish tanks hooked up (one to each planter) for aquaponics. The aquaponics did nicely for a while. But, with time, the plants faded in vigor. I believe they needed more nutrition than the fish can provide. So, I chose to disconnect one of the planters to use in this test of the Kratky non-circulating hydroponics.
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Here's the planter. Don't peek at the other thing yet <wink>. The black cylinder in the middle is part of the drain that I purchased last year off Amazon. It's a Botanicare Ebb and Flow fitting that I love. With two extensions, it is the perfect height to both keep the water full in the planter and also support the center of the foam top that I will install. I don't have the media filter attached (as I'm not actually using the drain most of the time for this type of system. I expect I'll only need it when I flush the planter as needed to keep the salts down.)

I went to Home Depot and looked around until I found something I liked for the top. It's a piece of foam insulation with a reflective covering on one side. I especially liked that it said it won't mold. I cut the piece of foam with a camping knife by eyeballing the measurements. Hey, this is gardening, not architecture. I chose the reflective side for the top thinking that it would be a nice addition to help warm my plants and bounce the light back up. Maybe that will help promote bushier growth? That side also looks more water-resistant. I like to mist the plants.

Once I got it the size I liked for the top, I flipped it over to cut holes for the 2-inch net pots. I switched to my fishing knife as it's much better in those tight spaces. Basically, put the pot where you want it, outline it with a pencil mark, and then cut a little bit inside the pencil mark so that the lip of the pot will sit on top of the foam board.
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Flip the board back over and nestle your pot into the hole. The foam is very forgiving and also creates a snug fit for the pot.
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Repeat for as many pots as you would like to install in the foam top. I took a break here because I had forgotten to soak my coconut coir. Plenty of other things to do on the farm while I waited. Of course, one of my favorites (not necessarily what I "should" be doing) is to visit my goats.
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My 8-year-old herd matron, Limerick, (gold with blue eyes) with her yearling daughter, Rondeau. Poem, Limerick's 3-year-old granddaughter, is in the back.
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Here is yearling Chanson with her mom Mikado. Two-year-old Hailey is the chocolate buckskin on the right. I'm losing daylight here, so eyes are starting to glow.
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Here is Poem's yearling daughter, Virelai. She is so sweet! Virelai means an old song or poem. Do you see a pattern with last year's names? (Virelai, Rondeau, Chanson).

OK, back to our regularly scheduled programming....
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I've planted all the baby greens that I picked up at Valley Nursery in the net pots using coconut coir.
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After I took that plants out of their little plastic prisons, I gently rinsed the planting mix from the roots in a bucket of water. Then, I carefully unraveled the tap root and poked it through the bottom of the net pot. I hope this will help the plants to grow their root systems down into the nutrient-rich water. The idea with the Kratky method is that you allow the water to slowly evaporate, so a set of air roots develops near the lid of the enclosure, and the tap roots lengthen down as the water recedes.
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Next, I took the planter back into my dining nook. I filled it with water from the kitchen sink.
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Here, I am testing the ppm of my tap water in the City of Poulsbo. I bought this TDS meter from Amazon on the recommendation of Mike Adams in his video where he showed how to assemble one of his grow boxes.

By the way, all the indoor pictures are pretty yellow because I've got my Mini-Sunburst mounted above this planter. The other planter has a Hydrofarm Fluorowing above it, which I think I like better.

I had ordered a bunch of Ultraclean Super Plant Food from Mike Adam's Supply Source a couple weeks ago, but it hadn't arrived yet. So, I picked up a container of FoxFarm 3-2-6 plant food for hydroponics systems at Valley Nursery today.  I added a couple splashes to the water in the planter to get the ppm to around 900.
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Below the planter is the fish tank full of platies with a couple guppies, a couple corydoras catfish, and an algae eater. It used to be hooked up for aquaponics. Eh, but what is with the weird little fence? Pitiful attempt at quaint? Nah, our young cats that we adopted in September (after Teddy died) have decimated any kind of plant life that they find. I'm hoping this can be a temporary fix until they are trained to stop eating PEOPLE food!
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Here's another view of the setup. I just misted the plants.

Oh, and I added another lovely item: a screeching alarm that will trigger if one of our cats tries to put his little paws up on the edge of the planter.
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So, we shall see how this all works out. I am still learning. I am grateful for the insights I gathered from The Health Ranger. If anyone else has any advice, I'm all ears. Just comment on the blog post.

I'd especially like to learn why my plants don't continue to thrive on the aquaponics system after a few months. I am not sure how to increase the nutrition for the plants without causing issues for the tropical fish. My other tank will still be aquaponics (at least that's my opinion today). I have various tetra, a blue gourami, a red-tailed shark, and an algae eater in there.

I have some foam insulation left and lots of net pots and coconut coir. So, I hope to create some other small non-circulating hydroponic grow boxes that I will set out in the garden or the hoop house.

Update: I just got off the phone with a nice lady at Fox Farm Fertilizers. She said I can mix up a foliar spray with the Grow Big to use on the aquaponics plants. That won't bother the fish. Hooray!
18 Comments
Teresa
3/10/2015 05:26:12 am

Hi, I'm wondering what the advantage of this is over planting in healthy soil?

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Editor Melinda
3/15/2015 07:25:22 am

Hi Teresa,
Well, I'm trying different things in different places. I also plant outside in fenced gardens next to the house (I have goats) and in large pots in my 20-foot hoophouse. For inside, I started out with aquaponics above our fish tanks (we had one tank already going for years and added a second one when I created the aquaponics systems). The aquaponics plants didn't do as well as I would have liked. They started strong but faded after a few months. I now know I can spray them with a foliar spray to supply them with extra nutrients that the tropical fish don't provide. In the meantime, I watched the Health Ranger's videos on Foodrising.org and became intrigued. I love learning and trying out new things.

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Martha Galan link
3/10/2015 05:42:10 am

This is a very nice set up and you did an excellent job! So what happens if we lose power and there is not enough daylight to grow the plants, like if it's very overcast?
I live in the north and we have a LOT of cloudy days, even in the summer!

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Editor Melinda
3/15/2015 07:27:57 am

Hi Martha,
Well, the system is set in front of a window that faces west. So, there is sun in the afternoon. Not much as this is the Puget Sound area. We have a generator. We had to live off the generator for two months while our driveway was being repaired (see other blog posts on that!). In case of long-term power outage (EMP, etc.), I would just move this system outdoors (ensuring I put it into a fenced area so the goats don't eat our family's food).

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Rick Scaggs
3/10/2015 07:47:32 am

MEW. Mother earth News had an article (sp?) years ago that they suspected growth inhibitors secreted by the fish themselves. It had to do with the size of the tank.

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Editor Melinda
3/15/2015 07:35:41 am

Wow, that is a very interesting factoid indeed. I will look into that. Thanks!

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Jessica
3/10/2015 12:24:53 pm

Hi there: Love what you are doing. A comment about the fish - I recently watched an amazing presentation by a fella doing the aquaponics thing and I couldn't believe how much he was packing into a small area - the set up is slightly different, but is different and can easily be assembled from found items, etc.....pennies - the fish they used were goldfish - carp - some of the hardiest fish with the added advantage of being able to eat the fish.....I could look through my stored info if you would like to check out that system - and the very modest fee he charges is for video's, and the manual - its less than $50 to get and literally the system has plants bursting out of small bins - not nearly as elaborate a set up as what I am seeing here - the density of the plantings are almost unbelievable.
And they show you the plants as they grow from seeding to pulling - extreme density with healthy vigorous plants - and its a closed system............or what I like to call a looper...... I have the info somewhere on my computer so could send you pics - by the way I have nothing to do with the originator of the idea, he wouldn't know me from any other stranger - there's no monetary or other reward for me sharing his info - I just think you might find it more efficient with much higher yields......
Also had seen a show on Preppers where a fella had a whole system with tilapia, chickens and veggies that was amazing - again a closed system - protein from chicken eggs (no rooster required), their droppings fed the algea growth in the pond, the fish ate the algea - you can see where this is going and he also attached a veggie garden into the whole thing - did it in an empty back yard pool - tilapia grow really fast, protein from chicken eggs, veggies/herbs/whatever ya wanna grow........... Please feel free to email me if you want the other information so you can check out the fella with the high density system.......it really is remarkable and from what I've seen ( and no offense to Mike's stuff - the more of this info that's disseminated the better) I think its more efficient and gives a lot more produce for the space...... Take care and LOVE your goats......... : )) Jessica

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Tammera
3/11/2015 01:50:36 am

Hi Jessica,
I read your remarks to this article and am very interested in the information that you have to share. Thanks, Tammera Speed :)

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Mark
3/11/2015 10:05:47 am

Hi Jessica I am also interested in your information.

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imtyaz a
3/10/2015 04:05:40 pm

Is it sustainable; what I mean is it possible to have balcony farms [app. 8 M2] that can supply you food year round for say 4 people. Even one meal a day.
On an 8 M2 area, one meal a day how many mouths cane be supported? Any research on this, please advise.
Thanks
/Dubai/

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Editor Melinda
3/15/2015 07:42:32 am

Hello,
I'm afraid I am not familiar with 8 M2. I am using this small system in the house for a variety of greens and herbs that I would add to salads or dishes that I am cooking there in the kitchen. I is nice to just walk a few feet to grab a bit of this and a bit of that. For larger yields, I plant in large pots in my hoophouse (in Britain, it is called a polytunnel). Here is a blog post that shows a picture of my hoophouse from last year: http://www.editormelinda.com/blog/comparing-growth-of-plants-in-the-hoop-house-with-the-indoor-aquaponics
I will post a new blog post on the hoophouse in the next week. I grow enough food there to supply all the greens we need, as well as blueberries, garlic, onions, and strawberries.

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Jon
3/20/2015 04:59:02 am

8 M2 - imtyaz is probably referring to "8 square meters" as the approximate size of his balcony or potential garden spot.

imtyaz
3/31/2015 04:29:01 pm

I started with chilly. Easy in a very small pot. Let me build up slowly and see how it works out.

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